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This email continues our Trump-Harris debate series. To create this newsletter, we went through hundreds of recorded conversations with swing voters and synthesized each sideโs arguments. Today, these hypothetical voters debate the most contentious issue: Democracy.
Both sides have cast the current election as a referendum on democracy.
Trumpโs opponents have labeled him a โfascistโ who thinks favorably of Hitler and will end America as we know it. Trumpโs supporters have called Harris a threat to democracy: โMy view is that if Trump doesnโt win this election itโs the last election we are going to have,โ Elon Musk recently said.
Harris Voter (HV): Trump has utterly disregarded all Democratic norms. He did it before getting into office, inviting Putin to hack Hillary; he did it in office, pressuring Zelensky to investigate Biden; and he did it when leaving office, inciting a riot at the Capitol. He is the first president who did not accept the election results. We canโt have him in office.
Trump Voter (TV): First off: January 6 has been blown out of proportion. The hacking line was a joke. And โpressuring Zelenskyโ is not a big deal. He was impeached because of politics.
HV: You donโt see a trend here? You donโt see the danger in having someone who does this stuff run the country?
TV: He already ran the country and we were fine. In fact, heโs far more democratic than the Democrats, who pressure Big Tech to censor speech they donโt like; say that those who challenge them are spreading โmisinformationโ; and use labels to cow people into submission.
HV: People โย and foreign countries โย do spread information. Theyโre sowing division and interfering in our elections. The FBI has proven this. We need to take steps against it.
TV: You trust the FBI? The FBI is an entrenched opposition to Trump. Thatโs why when the New York Post reported on Hunter Bidenโs laptop, dozens of โformer intelligence officialsโ declared it โmisinformation,โ prompting Twitter to take it down and the entire legacy media to censor the story. Or how about the time the Democrats and media spent YEARS reciting the made-up story that Trump colluded with Russia?ย
HV: They didnโt prove Trump colluded with Russia, but people from his administration literally went to jail for lying to investigators about their ties to Russians.
TV: Iโm not saying those people were all perfect, but Russia did not get Trump elected. Trump was the democratically elected president in 2016. It was the DEMOCRATS who refused to accept his election. Remember โNot My Presidentโ? Or when Stacy Abrams ran for governor of Georgia, lost, and then she and the Dems said it was rigged?ย
HV: Trump still says he won the 2020 election.
TV: It was a flawed vote. Big Tech and the media slanted the landscape, and voting laws were changed too quickly and made too loose.
HV: Every court that heard the voter fraud claims โ even those overseen by Trump-appointed judges โ rejected them. How can you not accept that a sitting president refusing to accept an election result is in a class of its own? That thatโs simply unacceptable?
TV: Look: A lot of sketchy stuff happened in 2020. I think itโs fair to ask questions.
HV: Election aside, Trump calls the press the โenemy of the people.โ He says there's an โenemy within.โ Trumpโs former chief of staff, John Kelly, said himself that Trump is a wanna-be dictator who has said positive things about Hitler and wants only โyes-menโ around him.
TV: I mean, come on. The Democrats are the ones whoโฆ
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Editorโs Note
A lot of you said you enjoyed yesterdayโs newsletter, so we wanted to follow up with this today. We hope you enjoyed it and are eager to hear your thoughts. Once we finish up this series, weโll get out a few more pre-election reports from the swing states.ย
-Max and Max
RocaNews co-founders