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đ Everything About Epsteinâs Relationship With Trump
A lot has been said about it; we dug through all the facts
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By Max Frost
Earlier this month, The Wall Street Journal reported the contents of a birthday note sent by Trump to Jeffrey Epstein on his 50th birthday. The note, pasted inside the outline of a naked woman and styled as a conversation written in the third person, read:
âVoice Over: There must be more to life than having everythingâ
Donald: Yes, there is, but I wonât tell you what it is
Jeffrey: Nor will I, since I also know what it is
Donald: We have certain things in common, Jeffrey
Jeffrey: Yes, we do, come to think of it
Donald: Enigmas never age, have you noticed that?
Jeffrey: As a matter of fact, it was clear to me the last time I saw you
Donald: A pal is a wonderful thing. Happy Birthday â and may every day be another wonderful secret
Trump responded on Truth Social: âThe Wall Street Journal printed a FAKE letter, supposedly to Epstein. These are not my words, not the way I talk. Also, I donât draw pictures. I told Rupert Murdoch it was a Scam, that he shouldnât print this Fake Story. But he did, and now Iâm going to sue his ass off, and that of his third rate newspaper.â
He then sued the Journal for $20B.
But what is actually known about Trumpâs ties to Epstein? What is fact and fiction? We spent the last week going through all the information we could find on the topic. Today, we share it here.
1980s-2000
While itâs unclear exactly when the duo met, Trump said in 2002 that he had known Epstein for â15 years,â implying their acquaintance began in the late 1980s. Both men moved in elite social circles in New York and Palm Beach around that time. By 1992, Trump and Epstein were socializing in Palm Beach. NBC archive video footage from that year shows Trump and Epstein together at Mar-a-Lago, where Trump pointed at young women dancing, whispered something in Epsteinâs ear, and made him laugh.
In 2019, Florida businessman George Houraney told The New York Times that in 1992, he organized a âcalendar girlâ beauty competition at Mar-a-Lago and had flown in 28 young women. He told the Times, âAt the very first party, I said, âWhoâs coming tonight? I have 28 girls coming.â It was him and EpsteinâŠI said, âDonald, this is supposed to be a party with VIPs. Youâre telling me itâs you and Epstein?ââ That event wasnât documented at the time.
Confirmed flight logs show that Trump flew on Epsteinâs plane eight times, all between 1993 and 1997. The flights were between Palm Beach and New York City, once with a stop in Washington, DC. In 1994, Trumpâs then-wife, Marla Maples, their daughter, Tiffany, and a nanny tagged along.
In the late 90s, Epstein was a familiar face in Palm Beach society â he owned a mansion just down the road from Trumpâs club. Photographic evidence from 1997 shows Trump and Epstein together at Mar-a-Lago during a social event, and what is allegedly Epsteinâs personal address book (later nicknamed the âBlack Bookâ) listed 14 contact numbers for Trump, his family, and his staff around this time. Trump and Epstein were also photographed at a Victoriaâs Secret party in New York City that same year.
2000-2004
In the early 2000s, Epstein was frequently seen at Mar-a-Lago, although he was not an official member. Also present was Ghislaine Maxwell. In the year 2000, Trump was photographed alongside Maxwell, Epstein, and Melania, then his girlfriend.
That same year, Maxwell noticed a 16-year-old spa attendant working at Mar-a-Lago. Her name was Virginia Giuffre (née Roberts).
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Editorâs Note
So there it is: 30+ years of Epsteinâs relationship with Trump in a single article. What do you think? Does reading this change your perspective on the current situation? Let us know by replying to this email.
Thank you for reading. A lot of feedback on yesterdayâs Gen Z debt story, too. Weâve featured a selection below. Keep these takes coming!
Drew wrote:
Iâm a Gen Zâer and Iâm very concerned about inflation let alone the national debt, I recently read that the buying power Iâd need to have to be comparable to the 1950s-70s generation who paid for their own college degree and bought homes by 25 is roughly $60 an hour which is almost impossible at an entry level job contemporarily.
I have absolutely no idea how this issue could possibly be fixed even if our government tried to fix it, but they donât seem concerned about it because it wonât affect them.
Paul from Delaware wrote:
The US, unlike an individual, will not die. The US debt can therefore be a revolving instrument to face crises, as it never needs to by paid off in full. The question we really need to ask is, how much interest are we willing to pay to service the debt and should we stop increasing it or even try to reduce it? I believe that the answer is yes, we should reduce it in good times, and increase it in bad times.
We are currently in a time of peace with record breaking highs in the stock markets. But instead of taking advantage of this, we are pretending that we are facing an âinvasionâ and hugely expanding government spending on ICE. Further, we are cutting income taxes. Spending more and making less will lead to ballooning deficits. The tariffs (new consumption taxes) may help offset this. Unfortunately, across the board consumption taxes hurt the young and the poor considerably more than income taxes.
I believe there is spending that can be reduced, but to really address the debt issue we need to tax ownership. Scott Galloway has spoken in depth about this and does a great job of explaining it. I would urge you to interview him for one of your deep dives.
And MH wrote:
My 36 year old son wanted me to read your news 6 months ago and Iâve been reading ever since and passing it along to everyone, you have great stories!
I graduated high school in 1980 and lived at home, went to our local public college and worked all through out college; no debt! Drove a clunker car, never went on trips and married right after college. We had a low cost wedding, started life renting and eventually bought a house, $125,000. We had 6 kids, sent to catholic schools, and they all played club sports, while I was a SAHM. We still drove used cars, never took fancy trips (camping instead), never ate out and lived frugally but fun.
My point is, (which includes my own kids) kids expect/want way too much. They spend like crazy, they think the âall-inclusive college resortâ is the only way to do college, they take all the trips, have the fancy weddings, all the expensive brands, etc and now wonder why they are broke! They still buy stuff they donât need and are constantly out on the weekends spending money. Yes, we talked to them all the time and showed them while growing up how to do this responsibly and frugally. (I think social media plays a roll in expectations and influence).
I know there are much deeper problems in our country (national debt, healthcare) but taking responsibility for personal finances can make a difference too.
Can you explain âone day someone will have to pay itâ regarding the national debt. Iâve heard this for years but what does it actually mean?
Thank you for your work!
Editorâs note: Thanks for reading Roca, weâre glad to hear youâve been enjoying the stories lately. We wrote an article a few weeks ago on how an American debt crisis would play out â you can read it here.
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Thanks for reading.
âMax and Max